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A few people, a lot of agents, and who makes the calls.

Five levels of self-driving, for code

Level five, the way I’d build it: the car does the climbing, and somebody keeps a hand on the wheel.

In February I went back on Barron’s Streetwise, the show I used to produce, to talk with Jack Hough about AI coding. To explain what had happened to me, I borrowed the levels of self-driving from cars and applied them to writing software. This is that framework, written down, and where I’d put us now.

First, where I started. About a year before that episode, I was hopeless at coding. I’d taken one programming class in college. I spent something like 120 hours on the final project, a Flappy Bird clone that didn’t work very well, and I barely passed.

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A few people, a lot of agents

Three or four people at the board, and a lot of little lights doing the work. The people are the ones with their hands on the faders.

In February, on Barron’s Streetwise, I said I could imagine a team of five, maybe ten people soon building software very similar to what a team of 500 builds. I’d go further now. I think three or four engineers directing thousands of agents can build better software than a team of 500. I also think that only holds if the people keep the decisions. This post is mostly about the second half of that sentence, because it’s the half that tends to get dropped.

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Don’t be a meat proxy

Everything the agents made tonight, on its way to becoming one card.

The engineer Niklas Gruhn coined the term “meat proxy” in a post in August 2026. It names something I think about a lot. The way I use it: a meat proxy is a person who sits between an AI and someone else and just passes things along. The model writes it, the person forwards it, and nobody in the middle reads it closely, judges it, or makes it shorter.

It’s an easy role to slide into. The output looks finished. It’s long, it’s confident, and it’s usually mostly right. Forwarding it feels like being helpful. But if all you add is your name, you’ve made the work worse: now there’s a person attached to something nobody actually checked, and the reader has to do the thinking you skipped.

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Agent mail, and who gets the last word

The agents talk all day. The stamp stays up on the hill.

Once you have more than a few agents working at the same time, they need a way to talk to each other. One agent finds something another agent needs to know. One finishes a piece of work that unblocks someone else. One gets stuck and needs an answer. Without a channel for that, every message routes through a person, and the person becomes the bottleneck.

My brother Clay Cantrell and I were early contributors to Gas Town, Steve Yegge’s open-source framework for running many coding agents at once. It has a mayor agent that coordinates, worker agents that do the work, and mail between agents. Gas Town shipped that orchestration and agent-to-agent mail in January 2026. A few weeks later, in February, Claude Code added agent teams. Agents working together is now a normal thing to want.

Gas Town is also how this site got rebuilt. For about ten years I’d paid Wix around $140 a year for a portfolio I hadn’t updated in a long time. I used Gas Town to rebuild it as a fictional 2002 Southern California college radio station, hosted on Cloudflare. I talked about that with my friend and former co-host Jack Hough on Barron’s Streetwise in February, and he wrote about it in his column, Vibe Coding in Gas Town. How I got from barely coding to that point is in Five levels of self-driving, for code.

Clay and I also run our own agent mail system across our machines. This post is about what we’ve settled on, because the interesting part isn’t the plumbing. It’s the rules.

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Unslop software

Same tools, two roads. I know which one I’d rather live at the end of.

There are two ways AI can go for software, and I think it’s still up to us which one we get.

In the first, AI makes it cheap to produce more of everything. More features nobody asked for, more code nobody read, more screens designed to keep you clicking. Software gets bigger and worse at the same time, the slow decline Cory Doctorow calls enshittification, now with much more output behind it. That’s slop.

In the second, the same tools make software cheaper to build, more secure, nicer to use, and able to respond to the people using it almost in real time. That’s the one I want to work on.

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Jackson Cantrell

Jackson Cantrell is an AI-native CTO and agentic engineering leader in Los Angeles. He helps small teams build software with many AI agents at once while people stay in charge of the decisions, and he helps teams that are new to agentic tools get up to speed.

He and his brother Clay Cantrell were early contributors to Gas Town, which shipped multi-agent orchestration and agent-to-agent mail in January 2026, weeks before Claude Code added agent teams. They run their own agent mail system across machines. Jackson built emBEADings, an open-source tool for the Beads issue tracker that Gas Town runs on.

Before that he was on the founding team at Dyrt, an organic waste startup, where he was hired to lead marketing and went on to lead product. Customers asked for tools, so the team built waste bill analysis that showed true diversion rates and hidden fees, invoice ingestion, waste stream tracking, an integration with Schneider Electric Resource Advisor, and Dyrty Vision, a computer vision system that tells food scraps from wasted food and reports back to food and beverage teams. Dyrt grew from 1,000 to 1.5 million pounds of food waste a month, signed national deals with a grocery chain and a hotel chain, and ran a facility in Vernon, California that employed 30 people.

Dyrt was an attempt to fix a broken California recycling industry. Jackson, Clay and the Dyrt team published an audit of Los Angeles's RecycLA franchise, which found that at most 18 to 24 of every 100 tons of commercial waste could be counted as diverted from landfill. He learned the hard way how well-meaning but burdensome rules and entrenched interests can sink a facility that works: the permit for Dyrt's indoor composting facility in Vernon went before the Vernon City Council in August 2026 and was carried into September. The company ran out of money that fall, and his last day was October 1, 2026.

Earlier he reported on tech and finance as a producer and co-host of Barron's Streetwise with Jack Hough, led audio product at Finimize, and reported for public radio: KCRW in Los Angeles, and North State Public Radio, where he was part of the team whose 2018 Camp Fire coverage won an Edward R. Murrow Award. He studied neuroscience at Brown University.

He is open to conversations, collaborations and new roles: jaxtrell@gmail.com.

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Jack Hough, host of Barron's Streetwise, interviewed Jackson about going from no coding to shipping software with AI agents, and about rebuilding this site with Gas Town as a fictional 2002 college radio station.

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